Data and the Dirt Podcast: Where Natural Medicine Meets Modern Science
- Julie Stevens
- 4 days ago
- 3 min read

If you’ve ever felt like you’re navigating your health with half the picture—getting conflicting information from the internet, from well-meaning friends, even from your own care team—you’re not alone. And you’re not wrong to feel frustrated.
That frustration is exactly why we created The Data and the Dirt - a new podcast launching April 28th at 1pm EST.
The Data and the Dirt is a new podcast from Data G where every episode digs past the surface to separate fact from fiction, research from myth, and hope from actual strategy. Whether you’re navigating a serious diagnosis, managing a chronic condition, or simply done letting your health be a mystery, this show gives you the tools to know more, ask better questions, and make smarter decisions.
Two Worlds That Were Always Meant to Meet
Your hosts bring two very different backgrounds to the table—and that’s the whole point.
Julie Stevens is a Stage 4 colon cancer survivor who went from inoperable and chemo-resistant to No Evidence of Disease in nine months using a data-driven, whole-person strategy. She’s a health strategist, the founder of Vedalife and Data G, and a 25-year veteran of industrial/organizational psychology. Julie lives and breathes a single truth: your diagnosis is not your destiny, and your data is your power.
Trevor Clark is the Neuropathy Herbalist—a master botanical formulator and researcher who has spent decades studying with herbal medicine experts across the globe. Rooted in the traditions of classical herbalism and fluent in current research, Trevor bridges the ancient wisdom of plant medicine with the evidence that modern science is finally starting to catch up to. He translates all of it into answers you can actually use.
What to Expect
Every episode, we bring you the research. We name the myths. We show you where the science and the soil agree. And we hand you knowledge you can actually use—not vague reassurances, not fearmongering, not marketing dressed up as medicine.
We’re here for the people who are done with surface-level health advice. The ones who want to understand why something works, not just that someone on the internet said it does.
A Taste of What’s Coming
Our first episode tackles a story that shows exactly why this podcast needs to exist.
For decades, Vitamin C was dismissed as a fringe cancer therapy—largely because of clinical trials that tested the wrong thing. The researchers gave patients oral supplements and concluded the molecule didn’t work. But oral and intravenous Vitamin C behave so differently in the body that they’re essentially different drugs.
There’s a 60-fold difference in the blood concentrations they achieve, and the anti-cancer mechanism doesn’t even activate until you cross a threshold that oral dosing can’t reach.
Today, Phase 2 and Phase 3 clinical trials are showing real results—including a study in metastatic pancreatic cancer where adding IV Vitamin C to standard chemotherapy was associated with a meaningful improvement in survival. And the science behind it is elegant: at pharmacologic concentrations, the molecule acts selectively against cancer cells while leaving healthy tissue alone.
This is the kind of story we live for.
A molecule that was misunderstood for nearly half a century. Research that was dismissed because of a pharmacokinetic blind spot. And real people whose lives are being changed by the science that’s finally catching up.
We’ll walk you through all of it—the biology, the history, the clinical data, the safety considerations, and what it means for people who want to make informed decisions about their care.
Follow the Conversation
The Data and the Dirt is for anyone who’s ready to stop guessing and start knowing. If that’s you, come along for the ride.
Learn more about Julie Stevens at beadatag.com
Learn more about Trevor Clark at neuropathyherbalist.com
Your diagnosis is not your destiny. Your data is your power.



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